These Orioles may not panic, but a sense of urgency would be welcomed with 20 games left

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• Why would they panic?.....their paycheck are sure..their ungodly paychecks are sure...I am speaking specifically about Chris Davis....he was so overrated when they signed him to a 4 year deal....Adam does earn his paycheck....he does care...but Davis is possibly the most reckless over paid hitter I have seen....how many strikeouts this year, just by looking!...can see the ball?...he is supposed to be a professional.....one thing I have noticed over the years is when a contract is getting ready to come up, the player really excels in his performance....as soon as the contract is inked, they get very complacent and it shows in their batting average...I am curious IF we sign Manny next year, how his performance will be at the plate...he already does not run out fly balls or infield hits.. I have watched him hit 'what he thought would be a home run and jog to first only to find out it missed and then he hustles and only gets a double....that would be a worrisome thing for me if I was Buck ....Adam does hustle, as does Jonathan, and I cannot say enough of positive things about Trey Mancini, although he is a rookie and is trying to prove himself worthy of a nice contract when he is eligible...the pitcher all act like they are in a state of mental depression....I see them go to other teams and excell...ouch...and that really hurts...just my frustrated two cents....Yet I am still an Oriole Lover.....Go O's !

  • This is a common sentiment. And I will tell you I'm around these guys and almost all care deeply. More than you and I do. It's why they do what they do. And they take pride in it. But I think sometimes their frustration makes it look otherwise.

    • Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't take a rocket scientists or expert baseball follower to see and compare relative effort of base runners. I agree with Tessiebird as it relates to "going the extra mile" and not assuming anything about the destiny of a hit when it comes to running your butt off to maximize your bases. Now maybe the veterans are coached that way; and the rookies ignore such coaching to prove their value.

  • Yeah, all of that has struck me as curious as well. Not just with the Orioles, but players around the league. I don't want to question people's motives; but money does funny things to people's MO. I'd like to think the love of the game would suffice, with a payday being icing on the cake. But, I wasn't born yesterday.

• Yeah, they may not panic, but they sure do choke.

  • Fair enough.

  • What do you mean by "choke"? I don't understand this sentiment. The Orioles have never had any significant lead in the division or the wild card race (unless you want to go back to May), so they really haven't had anything to choke away. They've played sub-.500 ball all year since their 22-10 start.

    The Orioles are playing exactly the same way now as they have almost all season. That's not a choke. Just consistent mediocrity.

    • They choke when they get near the line of playoff baseball. See August.

      • Playing poorly is not the same thing as choking. I don't see any evidence that they're mentally weak or can't handle the pressure of September. They just don't have good enough starting pitching to stay in contention.

        • Paul ... this is just a question ... don't read anything into it, but are you an Orioles fan?

• Dan you may be to something. The "Hi Hum" attitude is good for their collective blood pressure and Jones,Manny,Schoop with the pies etc. may spice it up but yes some intensity might be in order. I watch Lindor round the bases screaming and hollering and think "how cool". It is a comatose unit.

  • They have their own moments. And, again, a calm demeanor isn't a bad thing. But it doesn't always look great.

• Buck has a tendency to stick with his regulars and/or favorites as far as the lineup goes. The players know this and I think get 'too comfortable' as it were. IMO Buck should shake things up more than he does. Players have to know there are consequences, if that's the right word, for not performing consistently to their abilities. Im not saying they aren't prepared or aren't trying, just that change can be beneficial when necessary.

  • Fair point.

• I'm tempted to say it's football season. Oh wait ...

  • Yeah, wait. This is still BBaseball.com

• " This season has been marred by an inconsistency that is impossible to explain."

  Not really, we are a mediocre team.
  A.L. Ranks
  Offense 6th
  Defense 11th
  Pitching 11th

  We have two good players who are carrying us to overachieve really. Best thing to do going forward is to pull the plug on Trumbo/Davis as full time players.

  C Beef
  1b Trey
  2b Jon
  3b Manny
  SS Beck
  LF Smith
  CF Jones
  RF Hays
  DH Chance

  Cross fingers & hope offense can outpace terrible pitching the next 20 games. Need to go 14-6.

  • You can't take Davis and Trumbo consistently out of the lineup. Especially Davis at first. That glove is exceptionally important.

    • I thought Mancini did quite well at first, albeit it was a short-lived opportunity. I watched Davis at Frederick during his injury period and he seemed to master looking strike-outs there as well.

• The Orioles have been a very flawed team since the start of the season. Their offense is one dimensional and their starting pitching has been awful. It is amazing to me that they have contended as long as they have. It shows what a good manager they have. When they went 3-4 against the Yankees and the Jays on the last home stand, I realized it was over. The three games they did win in those two series were all walkoffs and two required extraordinary comebacks. Until the starting pitching gets better, the Orioles are not going to the post season.

  • Makes sense. But they've been on the doorstep because all of these teams are flawed. Someone has to make it.

• Give it up! The O's are going no where. If the O's. are lucky enough to win 13 of the last 20 games (.650) then the Twins would only have to win 10 is 20 (.500). If you like the O's chance I suggest you look at the number of times the birds have been able to play .650 baseball over a 20 game span. It's not going to happen! All the hype that they still have a legitimate chance is only to put butts in seats. Home runs are exciting to watch until you must count on four baggers to get to the playoff. It takes consistent pitching and sometimes boring singles to win pennants

  • They were a game out of the Wild Card a week ago. That's fact. Not hype. Fact.

• Yes, I agree they were one game out a week ago and then the next week they did what? One week good next week not so good. Hype should begin with one week when the birds can not follow up with a second good week.

  • Can I panic now?? Just called up 5 losses in a row.

  • Good news the Os are now 1/2 game from catching up to the Rays

• Last night reminded me of the series we played in Cleveland following Cal Ripken setting the 2131 record. Game # 2132 saw Indian's Eddie Murray exchanging lineups with Cal. Cal received a 2 minute standing ovation. That is a long time, despite the 20 minute standing ovation he received in Baltimore.
  Once the fame began, it was all about the Tribe at "the Jake." Cleveland clinched the AL Central title with a victory over Baltimore. This was the first baseball championship since 1954. The fans were delirious.
  The Tribe clobbered a bad Oriole team the next day. They swept the series.
  On Sunday, we attended the Buccaneers vs. Browns game at "the mistake by the lake". The weather had been glorious

• ooops ... the weather had been glorious all weekend. Baltimore was insufferably hot & humid. The football game got the nickname "the ugly uniform bowl". The Browns were defeated by the Steelers in Round 2 of the playoffs. Hope was high for the 1995 season. Cleveland was rocking as the R&R Hall of Fame also opened that weekend.
  This was the last home game before Mark Viviano, a former reporter in Dayton, would break the story that the Browns were moving to Baltimore.